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Palestine’s bid to become an independent state this month

September 7, 2011 Leave a comment Go to comments

Apparently, there is going to be a UN meeting later this month, and one of the big topics is going to be whether or not to recognize the official statehood of Palestine. Now, for people who are keeping an eye on end times prophecy, this is significant. This potentially relates to a peace agreement between Palestine and Israel (and a subsequent sharing of the holy land).

A number of articles from an Israeli news site helps paint a better picture of the situation. The U.S. stands firm as Israel’s biggest ally, but also wants peace between Israel and Palestine. The U.S., under Obama, also intends to veto Palestine’s bid to become an independent state…but there are indications it may waver on that IF Palestine plays nice.

Let’s add up the pieces. Here are some relevant quotes from a few articles:

9-23-10 (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3958822,00.html)

“The Israeli-Palestinian peace process may be stalling, but US President Barack Obama says he remains firmly committed to resolving the Mideast conflict.”

Obama: “If an agreement is not reached, Palestinians will never know the pride and dignity that comes with their own state. Israelis will never know the certainty and security that comes with sovereign and stable neighbors who are committed to co-existence. The hard realities of demography will take hold. More blood will be shed. This Holy Land will remain a symbol of our differences, instead of our common humanity.”

It seems that Obama is implying that Palestinians must make peace with Israel. If an agreement is reached, then they might be able to become their own state. Seems like a conditional statement with possibility…Obama not only wants peace, but he also sees the benefit of Palestine becoming a state as well (“sovereign and stable neighbors”).

Obama said that peace must be made by Israelis and Palestinians, but added that “each of us has a responsibility to do our part as well. Those of us who are friends of Israel must understand that true security for the Jewish state requires an independent Palestine – one that allows the Palestinian people to live with dignity and opportunity. And those of us who are friends of the Palestinians must understand that the rights of the Palestinian people will be won only through peaceful means – including genuine reconciliation with a secure Israel.”

9-4-11 (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4117811,00.html)

“The Palestinians are going to the UN Security Council to ask for recognition for the state of Palestine on the 1967 borders… and there is no turning back or other choice than this one,” said leading Palestinian official Nabil Shaath.

Washington has said it will veto any Palestinian bid, but has made it clear it would prefer that the issue does not reach a vote at the Security Council.

The U.S. currently intends to veto Palestine’s bid to become a state, but Palestine will not stop trying. It will not be deterred. In 2010, Obama made statements implying that the U.S. veto might not be absolute under certain conditions.

9-7-11 (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4119156,00.html and http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4119088,00.html)

The United States is showing “disdain” for Arabs by trying to prevent the Palestinians from gaining United Nations, a senior Palestinian official said on Wednesday.

The U.S. might not want to show “disdain” for anybody and try to work toward some middle ground.

Arguing that the two-decade old peace process has run out of gas, the Palestinians are seeking an upgrade in their diplomatic standing at the United Nations. They are presenting the move as a step towards leveling the playing field with Israel.

Palestine says that they want to upgrade their diplomatic standing at the UN in order to be equal in status to Israel. Perhaps as equals, it is implied, the peace process can be rejuvenated.

The United States, Israel’s closest ally, opposes the Palestinian UN initiative on the grounds that it is unhelpful to its Middle East diplomacy, which is still focused on bringing about a resumption of face-to-face peace talks.

US opposition in the Security Council will thwart any Palestinian bid for full UN membership, although the Palestinians could still secure an upgrade in their status to a “non-member state” by presenting a General Assembly resolution.

Apparently, the U.S. has the power to stop Palestine from getting full UN membership. This means Palestine might want to concede certain things to the U.S. On the other hand, Obama badly wants peace between Israel and Palestine. So perhaps the U.S. has to concede a little to Palestine as well.

It’s possible—though by no means certain—that Obama could agree to NOT veto Palestine’s bid IF (and only if) Palestine agrees to make peace with Israel. Or, Palestine could go through with it, and Israel has promised to “respond” in this scenario. Various sources have indicated that Israel is preparing for war, so we could be seeing a war that precedes the peace agreement.

If any of this happens, then that could be it. Either rapture will come upon us, or we will be entering into the final seven-year period.

Just something to keep an eye on…

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UPDATE (as of 9/7/11): More articles

Poll: Majority expects Palestine to win UN bidhttp://www.turkishweekly.net/news/122813/poll-majority-expects-palestine-to-win-un-bid.html

A majority of Palestinians want to resume negotiations with Israel before the UN meeting later this month.

If it’s looking more and more like Palestine has international support, Israel may be forced to negotiate and make “painful concessions” (as Benjamin Netanyahu said a few months ago) ahead of time.

China Supports Palestinian UN Bidhttp://www.turkishweekly.net/news/122884/china-supports-palestinian-un-bid.html

See the last paragraph. Apparently, two senior U.S. envoys flew in on Tuesday (9/6/11) to try to get Israel and Palestine to resume their peace talks before the UN meeting.

  1. January 5, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Going to be interesting to see if they get in or not.

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